My next guest is Tibet Sprague and this is my second interview with him and likely not to be the last. Because the conversation we had around technology and what we might call appropriate tech or conscious technology is one of the most important conversations we could be having in culture right now, and I really want to honor and give gratitude to Tibet and his whole team at the Terran Collective and Hylo for the way they are stewarding and developing not just Hylo but also the Collaborative Tech Alliance. They are truly showing the way for this entire industry around how to uplift the values and principles that are needed at the foundation of civilization redesign.